Delicate Situation

Today’s – an adoptive mother of an 8 yr old boy who really wants to know his father and has fantasies about meeting him. She is in contact with his extended family and is now struggling with how to address his desire because it is said that the father is not a good person without really explaining why. So she has tried to explain to her son what they have been told by his siblings. She notes that he is an extremely generous and kind boy who has a hard time understanding that someone could be bad or dangerous and so still very badly wants to meet him.

It occurs to me that this might be somewhat a male thing. Both of my parents were adoptees. When I started out on my own roots discovery journey in 2017, I only really wanted to fulfill my mother’s desire to know about her own mother which she was thwarted from learning by closed and sealed adoption records. I had amazingly good success after my mom died, mostly because the state of Tennessee gave me her adoption file. Then, my nephews really wanted to know who my dad’s father was and encouraged me to pursue that. I am very glad that I did. Honestly, I have received many more blessings from pursuing that side of my genetic relatives than I had on my mom’s side, with the exception of one wonderful cousin, my mom’s step-sister’s daughter.

Now, back to today’s issue because delicate situations require sensitive or careful handling. The first advice I read, I believe was important. A mother of loss said – I’d rephrase your description of his father. Telling him his father “is not a good person” with no background about why he is not “good” is confusing to an 8 year old. I’d say something like, “at this time your father may not be in a healthy place for contact. I will work on getting more information for you and we can revisit your desire to know him.” His father may be horrible/unsafe/etc; but until you get accurate info, I would not label him as “no good”. Even a “no good” might be safe enough to have supervised contact in time. There are just too many unknowns…..

An adoptive parent agreed – I was going to say the same thing, editing that language may be helpful because “not a good person” is so vague and hard for a kid to understand what the problem is. At the age of 8, I think the kiddo needs as much age appropriate info as you can share. If you don’t know the reason the adult children have safety concerns, I think it’s okay to say that. “My job is to take care of you and keep you safe, and your siblings who have known your dad for a long time believe it may not be safe to spend time together right now.” Allowing him to write letters, draw pics etc for dad may be a good way to help the boy feel some connection until you have more information to make a decision about further contact.

Someone else shared their perspective – this would just make me resent everyone involved because my siblings got to know him at all and I didn’t and I desperately want to.

And then, there was this important point – I think that you’re forgetting that no matter what the father has done or not done, he’s still his father. As his father, he’s part of him. Saying that the father is bad means that HE is bad. Trust me, that’s the impact, regardless of your intent. Also, you are going off of information without knowing just what he’s done. That’s not fair to anyone. If he’s been a jerk to the NM and her family, that’s not a good enough reason. Unless you know for sure what’s going on, I say let him meet. Tell the genetic mother and extended family that you NEED to know what’s going on. Is he a gang member? A child molester? In prison? Living on the street? What exactly is being “bad”?? This doesn’t pass the smell test. It is unreasonable for them to say don’t contact without specifics. Your son deserves to know his father and father’s family. I say this as one who wasn’t crazy about my child’s father, but still knew that my child had rights.

Even so, one adoptee noted –  this may be an unpopular opinion but if they say he isn’t safe and don’t let him have access to their children, I wouldn’t either.

Then, there was this personal experience – my father was allowed to adopt a child, and I remember being shocked (at 7) that we passed the home inspection because of how he was. (They didn’t talk to me. Classism is wild.) I say this to establish that I grew up with an unsafe parent. Your son needs more information than “he’s bad” (which will make him feel bad about himself too). Explain that his father made choices that make him not safe to be around, that his brother and sister don’t want their kids around him, for their safety, and that his brother and sister look sad and scared when they talk about him. Let him know It’s your responsibility to keep him safe. He will understand if you are careful and sufficiently specific.

One adoptee asked – why did it take so long for his genetic mother to tell you who he is ? She replied – His mom later told us she was scared that if we contacted him he would come for her. She also does not like to talk about him. She never has said anything negative, but it is things like this. Or she said she ran away from him when she got pregnant. When I ask for more details she stops talking and I have respected that so far. We know who he is, confirmed with a DNA test with my son’s brother, but we have no contact info for him and have respected that his brother and sister are “no contact” with him and that this was a condition for our having a relationship with them.

And this was an important perspective – from experience – I grew up very heavily categorizing people into “good” and “bad” labels. But it’s more nuanced than that. Even if his father is the vilest person you’ll ever know of… that’s not ALL there is to him. My mother wasn’t equipped to parent me. She made selfish, immature choices that resulted in us being separated by Child Protective Services. Those bad things are true. She’s admitted to them herself, in recent years. But she did other things before and after that which allow me to connect with her as a HUMAN. And that has been a crucial part of my process. When we hear that they’re bad, and that’s all we hear, it dehumanizes them… and by association, us.

From an adoptee – Without knowing what the father has done, I’d be hesitant to classify him as anything other than “unavailable” at this time. I am in a situation where several family members are no (or very little) contact with another. They have history and a relationship with that person that I was not a part of. I don’t know any details of their past or why they’ve gone no/little contact. I respect their boundaries.

She adds – But, I have a right to navigate my own relationship with this person. My experience with this individual is different than those of the others. It’s been nothing but lovely. I’m cautious in my interactions, knowing that several people stay away, but that is their history, not mine. I don’t know the version of the person they know, and it’s been so many years and I don’t know that they’re aware of the version I know. I believe people are capable of growth or change. And that doesn’t change the experience of the other people. Mine is just different. I haven’t seen any red flags yet, or yellow flags for that matter. I’m watching for them. If any of the individuals shared their history that included red flag moments, I’d likely cut ties. But for now, I continue building my relationship. Since you don’t have any details, I would do your own investigation about the father and draw your own conclusions before bringing the child into it. I would respect the personal boundaries of the others, but their boundaries are theirs not yours. I’d be cautious and move incredibly slowly because of their warnings, but you do have a right to make contact if you wish for the sake of the child in your care. And stay incredibly vigilant for the yellow and red flags that might be present.

Violating Boundaries

I’ve been guilty, even when trying not to violate them. Today’s story from an adoptive mother – I am wondering how to best respect my kid’s wishes without cutting her mom off. She’s 9. Her mom really loves her and wants pictures and updates “whenever”. I’ll ask my kid if it’s okay if I send a photo to her mom after we’ve taken it and she’ll almost always say no. I don’t want to ignore her wishes and send the pictures without asking or against her wishes, but I don’t want her mom to feel cut off when she’s not getting any photos or updates for awhile. The other thing is that her mom almost never reaches out for updates but is always happy to receive them. I’m trying to do what I can to help them both. Thoughts?

A kinship adoptive mother replies – I agree with those who’ve said not to send them. I have custody of a 16yo who’s lived with me for almost 2.5 years. Recently when angry, she blurted out that she hates me sharing her whole life on Facebook. That comment made me realize I’d never asked her permission to make FB posts about her and her accomplishments, etc. Of course, my first thought was – Well geez. I’m just proud of you, want to make sure your family members can see you grow, etc. In my head, I had a million good reasons for why I was doing what I do. But ultimately in the end, it makes her uncomfortable and I violated her boundaries without even realizing I was doing anything wrong. So a big apology ensued and I no longer post anything about her on social media. If she wants someone to see something or know something she can share it herself. Definitely respect your daughters’ boundaries and let her have the final say.

The first one was convinced – Will definitely continue respecting her wishes and see if we can facilitate different means of connection with her mom.

ADHD And Struggling

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I found much of this discussion helpful and so I am sharing it for today’s blog.

The original comment –

My 17 year old son adopted from foster care at 15, after 8 years in care. 2 failed adoptive placements before and he was living in residential treatment for 15 months before he transitioned to my home. He’s been with me for 2 years in total. He has not had contact with any biological family in 5+ years and did not have consistent care givers for the first 7 years of his life. He expresses hate towards his biological family and will not discuss with me.

He’s dealing with depression, anxiety, and ADHD. Although I believe the depression is very long term, today is the first day he has ever said it out loud. He had actively denied it previously. I also deal with depression and the sentiment he described of feeling like nothing even matters is something I’m very familiar with. He’s been let down so many times and I often tell him he’s had a very normal reaction to abnormal circumstances. He is so afraid to hope. He is in weekly therapy and working with psychiatrist. I feel like tonight him acknowledging his depression was a really big step forward. I am trying to help him navigate depression and be more hopeful. He is incredibly intelligent and capable and could really pursue so many opportunities and be well supported in whatever he chooses. He’s sabotaging himself instead. He is an older teenager navigating the transition to adulthood. Thank you for sharing any thoughts.

Response from an Adoptee with Depression and ADHD –

Just to translate some of what you’re saying here and how it may come across. You may not say these things out loud but “could really pursue so many opportunities and be well supported” tells me you probably imply these things:

“You could do so much more if you’d just apply yourself.”

*I’m never going to be good enough*

“Why are you struggling with something this basic”

*I’m stupid and can’t do basic things*

“You self-sabotage a lot”

*Push past burnout and ignore self-care*

My support network lets me move at my own pace. Also learning that I can’t brute force my way past ADHD by being “Intelligent” has helped.

No one really figures shit out until their 20s. Heck – I didn’t figure out anything until my 30s. Gen Z just has more pressure because you can’t live off the salary from an entry level job anymore.

The original commenter replied –

I definitely think this is something I’m struggling with and I appreciate your translation. I think what’s hard for me is that he is 17 but in many way operating as someone much younger. However he has the expectation the he be treated like every other 17 year old. We are fighting regularly because I won’t let him get a driver’s permit or I set structures around bedtime and Internet and he wants freedom. I’m very comfortable trying to meet him where he is and help him grow at whatever rate he grows. But he wants adult freedom and responsibility – he’s simply not ready for and it feels negligent on my part to just give him that because of his age. So I’m trying to help him set meaningful goals for himself, so that he can work towards the things he says he wants but it seems that his depression is a major barrier to working towards those goals.

I’m not rushing him to figure it out or trying to prescribe specific goals. I’m trying to support him in doing what he says he wants to do and having the freedom he wants to have. As a single parent, I’d love for him to have a driver’s license, just as much as he wants it. But how do I help him be ready for that, when the depression he’s experiencing seems to suck any motivation to do the work ?

Response from an Adoptee with Depression and ADHD –

Why can’t he have a learner’s, if you don’t mind me asking ?

People with ADHD (and often undiagnosed co-morbidities) struggle with being infantilized.

You’re talking about controlling bed time when ADHD can come with delayed circadian rhythm and insomnia.

Yes – ADHD often means you have issues keeping up with organizational skills, goal management, emotional regulation and peer relationships. That doesn’t mean you treat that person like a young child. In an environment where controlled exploration is allowed, you develop coping skills.

ADHD – ESPECIALLY as a teenager – means you’re fighting yourself for control of a brain that seems constantly against you. Emotions are hard to regulate. Your rewards system is fucked. Object permanence is a myth. Time is an abstract concept I’ve yet to grasp.

How can you expect a 17 year old to be motivated to control things that are hard and wield an intangible reward like “opportunities,” if he can’t have any control over what’s in front of him that matters.

“Opportunities” offers no tangible reward. My ADHD/PTSD/Depression brain looks at basic chores and goes, “I don’t get why that matters.”

I’m an adult. With therapy and support, I’ve found ways around that. But I also found it after I started having my own boundaries and stopped infantilizing myself.

Meaningful goals don’t work with ADHD. They just put things behind a glass wall you’ll never break. You get frustrated and give up easier.

You need to give him simple goals he can succeed at to build self confidence.

Don’t make freedom a “reward”. It breeds resentment. Work with him to set personal boundaries and schedules. Those won’t look like what works for a neurotypical.

I like “How to ADHD” for life hacks. I also really recommend Domestic Blisters but she’s more aimed at 20 somethings. Catieosaurus is great. She does talk about sexual health on occasion but nothing a 17 year old with Google hasn’t seen.